tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361358365193630538.post1667898805832111301..comments2024-03-05T01:05:37.027-08:00Comments on IN THE NEWS: Untattoo YouKaren Franklin, Ph.D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/01032855743077403199noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361358365193630538.post-68602560937576874392011-02-07T12:19:17.097-08:002011-02-07T12:19:17.097-08:00For more commentary on this post, visit "Gath...For more commentary on this post, visit "Gather":<br /><br />http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979026290<br /><br />A shortened url to the page is:<br /><br />http://bit.ly/hjoGRnKaren Franklin, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01032855743077403199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361358365193630538.post-14607002049782185752011-02-02T09:24:16.139-08:002011-02-02T09:24:16.139-08:00Hi Rita,
Thanks for posting the link to Doug'...Hi Rita,<br /><br />Thanks for posting the link to Doug's commentary. I found his comment on the specific case particularly interesting:<br /><br />"It is curious that the court is obscuring the tattoos that he acquired after he was arrested– essentially, after he was aware that a jury would be passing judgment on him. An argument could be made that the post-arrest tattoos were intended as a public statement, directed toward jurors as well as others. There is no doubt that they would offend most people, but that appears to be what he was seeking. In a peculiarly mixed presentation, Ditullio submitted to neat dress, a trim haircut, and the addition of new, offensive tattoos."Karen Franklin, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01032855743077403199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361358365193630538.post-10014016312086219532011-02-01T13:31:38.700-08:002011-02-01T13:31:38.700-08:00We write about tattoos more than we ever imagined ...We write about tattoos more than we ever imagined we would at The Jury Room blog. As with many forms of bias, it isn't so much about how things should be--but how they are as you enter the courtroom. <br /><br />See what Doug thought about this issue (with a link to the NYT piece) at our blog: http://keenetrial.com/blog/2010/12/06/tattoos-when-should-you-clean-up-your-witness/<br /><br />As fans of both Sam and Karen, we were glad to see this piece addressing the questions of tattoos or not/tattoos. <br /><br />RitaUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05166765874655879505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361358365193630538.post-43113842166355369972011-01-31T07:42:50.754-08:002011-01-31T07:42:50.754-08:00Hi Cavall de Quer,
Sorry 'bout that. My fault...Hi Cavall de Quer,<br /><br />Sorry 'bout that. My fault. I typically moderate posts, and I wasn't around. I've changed the settings and I'll see how this works. <br /><br />Not sure there's one right answer to this one, but I found the issue intriguing -- as are many that Dr. Sommers blogs about. <br /><br />KarenKaren Franklin, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01032855743077403199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361358365193630538.post-48080493488094311572011-01-30T13:14:25.600-08:002011-01-30T13:14:25.600-08:00Oh, there seem to have been responses that I didn&...Oh, there seem to have been responses that I didn't see - didn't mean to imply anything about these comments, I just didn't see ANY comments when I posted - odd!Cavall de Querhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17687910584661433398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361358365193630538.post-41283316654657078852011-01-29T11:13:07.820-08:002011-01-29T11:13:07.820-08:00Wish someone would post an intelligent response he...Wish someone would post an intelligent response here, because it's most interesting, and I confess I can't work out which side appears is in the right!Cavall de Querhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17687910584661433398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361358365193630538.post-10490951710801170572011-01-29T07:51:51.924-08:002011-01-29T07:51:51.924-08:00Probative but inflammatory. I would order that the...Probative but inflammatory. I would order that the state pay to cover the tattoos.bluestemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772583347836525857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361358365193630538.post-71402247685626034462011-01-29T06:23:57.015-08:002011-01-29T06:23:57.015-08:00I think it's an excellent idea to hide the phy...I think it's an excellent idea to hide the physical appearance in some way. Slick sociopaths have often been able to work a jury,etc. in their favor. And I know of a man whose appearance works against him because he's phobic about dentists, overweight, has bad acne and thinks in a confused way because of his mental illness. <br />He was falsely accused years ago of sexually abusing a child. The child, as it turns out, was lying..(she later recanted and gave a strong deposition...two older women encouraged her to lie and she was a very smart,wilful and street-smart child so it appealed to her for her purpose, which was to get this man away from her older sister who she was extremely close to. <br />So, the man looked very guilty, the child very innocent and in truth it was the opposite. Children are protected in court ...but in this case, the child was the guilty party. The innocent victim was the man who looked guilty. And he is still on the sex offender registry, still has a felony (the only thing ever on his record).... people often are strongly swayed by appearance more than is good. In fact, many take pride in thinking they can tell who's bad, who's good by this...and you cannot often do that at all.suetiggershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08222568367616428469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361358365193630538.post-17258523524235070532011-01-29T01:46:21.487-08:002011-01-29T01:46:21.487-08:00It's a tricky one. I really don't know wha...It's a tricky one. I really don't know what I think. On the one hand, it's ridiculous that the court should pay for this, but on the other hand, it's vital that poor people have exactly the same legal rights as rich ones. Which of course is never going to happen so long as we have private lawyers, the best ones charging the most; but everything we can do to approximate that has to be a good thing.<br /><br />it reminds me of this <a href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/judge-rules-white-girl-will-be-tried-as-black-adul,18896/" rel="nofollow">spot-on Onion piece.</a>Neuroskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06647064768789308157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2361358365193630538.post-63473145368184094572011-01-28T18:33:28.738-08:002011-01-28T18:33:28.738-08:00First of all a tattoo is the source of a person...First of all a tattoo is the source of a person's personality, traits and ideals embedded on his or her body surface. Some tattoos are a source of identification, for e.g., military tattoos. Covering up the tattoo only portrays the person under judicial investigation as either a liar or have something to hide. I would say that covering a tattoo up is a bad idea, it does not matter what your opinion is. At least then you show that you have nothing to hide...so what if one is bigot, at least you do not hide and it does not mean that being a bigot you get a conviction for one believes. The underlying motive is always the truth - either good or bad, let the media and public form their perceptions but lying and hiding will only persevere the consequences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com